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Location: Mugswell, Surrey, UK
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I have two things to announce:
BBC camera settings for HD are at http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp034.shtml, and include details of the tests and measurements where needed to justify my comments. They are widely used in the BBC and a lot of other places as well. They're free, but copyright marked in the documents. Broadcast Project Research in Teddington (www.bpr.org.uk) are printing hard copies of some of my test cards for camera use. So far, only a "starburst" focus chart and a "lens test" chart comprising a set of zone plates (at any resolution from SD to 4k digital cinema) for lens/camera/channel analysis. There are others in the pipeline. BPR also make a range of nifty gadgets for video production.
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Alan Roberts, happily retired from Auntie Beeb ![]() Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them. My BBC-owned camera settings documents are held at BBC R&D, also mirrored by BPR (under construction, click on NEWS) and Daniel browning. Documents for BBC-approved HD cameras are at BBC Commissioning. My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here or directly from me. |
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: London, UK
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Is there a comparable set of settings for SD cameras, Alan?
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Sorry, not for SD cameras. The tests I do are mostly for the BBC, and their interest is primarily in HD these days.
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Alan Roberts, happily retired from Auntie Beeb ![]() Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them. My BBC-owned camera settings documents are held at BBC R&D, also mirrored by BPR (under construction, click on NEWS) and Daniel browning. Documents for BBC-approved HD cameras are at BBC Commissioning. My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here or directly from me. |
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I'll add a third thing that I do for money, training. I provide the technical content for training courses. So far, these have been run by BBC and Ravensbourne College, some uder the Skillset banner. I train newcomers to HDTV in the ways of getting the best from cameras, and getting them to understand the limitations of video production in HDTV. I also provide a problem-solving service to productions.
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Alan Roberts, happily retired from Auntie Beeb ![]() Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them. My BBC-owned camera settings documents are held at BBC R&D, also mirrored by BPR (under construction, click on NEWS) and Daniel browning. Documents for BBC-approved HD cameras are at BBC Commissioning. My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here or directly from me. |
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Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: London
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Hi Alan,
Do you know if there is a proper TIFF image of the BBC Test Card 61P?? Many thanks, Simon |
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Join Date: May 1999
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As far as I'm aware, there are no full resolution images of any of the BBC test cards, the copyright for all of them belongs with Esser in Germany.
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Alan Roberts, happily retired from Auntie Beeb ![]() Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them. My BBC-owned camera settings documents are held at BBC R&D, also mirrored by BPR (under construction, click on NEWS) and Daniel browning. Documents for BBC-approved HD cameras are at BBC Commissioning. My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here or directly from me. |
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Just raising the profile again. Here's a list of the cameras for which there are BBC test/settings documents. The ones in bold are published but not held on the BBC R&D site yet for reasons that are too involved to go into here. They are all in the public domain (and available ion Daniel Browning's website, see my sig for details), and all will get on to the web at some stage, possibly on a new EBU website. The documents for cameras approved by the BBC for HD use are hosted on the BBC's Commissioning website as well. In the meantime, I'm happy to email copies of the unavailable ones if you send me a PM with your email address (assuming you don't want to put your email address in an open posting).
1: Sony HDWF900 1a: Sony HDWF900/3 2: Panasonic HDC-27V 3: Panasonic HDC-27A 4: Panasonic HDC20A 5: Thomson LDK6000 5a: Thomson LDK6000 version 3.2 6rev2: Sony HDW750P 7rev1: Panasonic HDC20A 8rev7: Panasonic HDC27F/H 9: Sony DVW790WSP 10: Panasonic SDX900 11: Panasonic HC900 12rev1: Sony HDC950/930 13: Panasonic HC900/HRP900 14: Comparison of camera speeds 15rev1: Panasonic HDX400 16rev1: Sony PDW530 17: Sony HDW730S 18rev1: Panasonic HVX200 19: Sony HVRA1/HC1 20: Sony Z1/FX1 21rev2: Panasonic HDX900 22rev2: Sony HDWF900R/790 23: Sony HVRV1 24: Panasonic HPX2100 25: Canon XHG1/A1 26: Panasonic HPX500 27rev1: Panasonic HPX3000 28: Sony PDW700 29: Canon HF10 30rev2: Sony PMWEX1/EX3 31: Panasonic HPX171 (menu values apply to HMC151 as well) 32: RED ONE 33: Panasonic HVX201 34rev1: Sony HVRZ5/Z7 35: Panasonic HPX2700 36: Panasonic HPX3700 37: Sony HDW650 38: Panasonic HPX301 39: Canon 5D 40: Thomson DMC1000 (Infnity) un-numbered: Canon XF300/305 More cameras are in the pipeline. Altogether, I reckon I've done 65 camera tests now, some of them repeats when the needs of the users got more interesting, like the Varicam (7 revisions). Remember, if it's not in bold, you can simply download it from the BBD R&D site, only the ones in bold need to come directly from me or from Daniel Browning's site or from the BPR site. And my book 'Circles of confusion' will be published by the EBU, to be launched at IBC 1009.
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Alan Roberts, happily retired from Auntie Beeb ![]() Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them. My BBC-owned camera settings documents are held at BBC R&D, also mirrored by BPR (under construction, click on NEWS) and Daniel browning. Documents for BBC-approved HD cameras are at BBC Commissioning. My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here or directly from me. Last edited by Alan Roberts : 30th June 2010 at 10:49. Reason: To add thre Canon 305 |
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Join Date: May 1999
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The book was launched quietly at IBC. There was a copy on the EBU front desk for the duration, 2 copies were nicked from there during the 5 days. Also, about 250 orders were taken (I make that about 1 every 10 minutes for the 5 days)
![]() For details, go to www.ebu.ch, click on Technical, and it appears in a small pane in the top right corner, rotating with several other items - be patient, it will appear eventually. Click on 'place an order' and it goes to a page with all the details. Also, I have a small number of copies which I can sell directly. The price the EBU charges is 120 Swiss francs, and I have to pay them £72 for each copy sell, which I'm happy to do with no markup. Postage/delivery depends on where you are, relative to me, but the Post Office wants £5.60 to deliver it (it weighs 3lb).
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Alan Roberts, happily retired from Auntie Beeb ![]() Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them. My BBC-owned camera settings documents are held at BBC R&D, also mirrored by BPR (under construction, click on NEWS) and Daniel browning. Documents for BBC-approved HD cameras are at BBC Commissioning. My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here or directly from me. Last edited by Alan Roberts : 11th February 2010 at 16:09. |
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Canon XF300/305 doc recently completed and released for publication June 30 2010. I've sent it to Daniel Browning and BPR to get it on-line,. Since it's not a BBC test, it has no addendum number, that may change if/when a blockage at the BBC is released. I've added it to the list above.
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Alan Roberts, happily retired from Auntie Beeb ![]() Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them. My BBC-owned camera settings documents are held at BBC R&D, also mirrored by BPR (under construction, click on NEWS) and Daniel browning. Documents for BBC-approved HD cameras are at BBC Commissioning. My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here or directly from me. Last edited by Alan Roberts : 30th June 2010 at 10:42. |
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Join Date: May 1999
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Posts: 11,986
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Alan Roberts, happily retired from Auntie Beeb ![]() Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them. My BBC-owned camera settings documents are held at BBC R&D, also mirrored by BPR (under construction, click on NEWS) and Daniel browning. Documents for BBC-approved HD cameras are at BBC Commissioning. My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here or directly from me. |
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