Canon XHA1 Footage Fuzzy

caryjoy · 27th July 2010, 22:27

Finally been using our new XHA1 & testing it's abilities. I did notice that when filming the footage looked "fuzzy" when either viewing through the viewfinder or the screen. Downloaded it onto our system & the footage is the same, not crisp or sharp as if the lens was covered in a thin film of paper. Have I got the settings wrong?
Have any of you guys experienced this?
Thanks

caryjoy · 31st July 2010, 22:03

I'm amazed! Not 1 reply! Do you use this cam in auto? Is it that good compared with all others? I'm afraid it is! I found the problem, sorted it & now comparing it to the other cams we have I'm convinced Canon have got it spot on the money!
What a great cam & thanks for all your help.

Alan Roberts · 1st August 2010, 08:12

I'd have replied had I ever seen an XHA1, but I haven't, so didn't, because I wouldn't have been able to add anything. I guess that must be true for a great many of us. Glad you got it sorted.

johnd · 1st August 2010, 09:22

we have a XHA1 in my film group but I've only personally used it a couple of times so my experience is negliable. In that I never offered any advice this may sound cheeky but can you tell us what the source of the problem was and how you resolved it?

Gavin Gration · 1st August 2010, 11:44

Gain? ND left on?

tilski · 1st August 2010, 12:26

Hello

We have 2 XHA1's. At first I thought it was the students using auto focus or not focusing properly. But guest what........I was wrong. I haven't got the bottom of this problem yet either but YES footage shot on the XHA1 can sometimes be soft on focus not to mention drained of colour. If i could I would Sony next time round.

Mick Mearman · 1st August 2010, 16:15

This is the first cam that I've had that you can't just shoot out of the box unless you are prepared to do it all in post, it gives a very flat output, you need to set a preset (and not the ones it comes with) if you want it to look good straight out of the cam, I use 'Panalook' which is designed to look like a DVX100, you'll find them here:
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-xh...rary-copy.html
and a video of some of them in use here:
http://vimeo.com/1650059
Mick

tilski · 1st August 2010, 16:39

Thanks, Mike. I'll give those a go soon.

caryjoy · 1st August 2010, 16:40

The problem was that the AGC was switched on hence overloading the video input causing a fuzziness around the subjects being filmed. I've been discussing this with Robo & now setting up the cam with some settings he provided.
Cheers

Alan Roberts · 2nd August 2010, 08:18

That sounds like over-exposure rather than defocusing.

27th July 2010, 22:27	#1
caryjoy Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 1,750	Canon XHA1 Footage Fuzzy Finally been using our new XHA1 & testing it's abilities. I did notice that when filming the footage looked "fuzzy" when either viewing through the viewfinder or the screen. Downloaded it onto our system & the footage is the same, not crisp or sharp as if the lens was covered in a thin film of paper. Have I got the settings wrong? Have any of you guys experienced this? Thanks __________________ Cary www.joybaileyvideo.com

31st July 2010, 22:03	#2
caryjoy Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 1,750	I'm amazed! Not 1 reply! Do you use this cam in auto? Is it that good compared with all others? I'm afraid it is! I found the problem, sorted it & now comparing it to the other cams we have I'm convinced Canon have got it spot on the money! What a great cam & thanks for all your help. __________________ Cary www.joybaileyvideo.com

1st August 2010, 08:12	#3
Alan Roberts Moderate Moderator Join Date: May 1999 Location: Mugswell, Surrey, UK Posts: 11,986	I'd have replied had I ever seen an XHA1, but I haven't, so didn't, because I wouldn't have been able to add anything. I guess that must be true for a great many of us. Glad you got it sorted. __________________ Alan Roberts, happily retired from Auntie Beeb Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them. My BBC-owned camera settings documents are held at BBC R&D, also mirrored by BPR (under construction, click on NEWS) and Daniel browning. Documents for BBC-approved HD cameras are at BBC Commissioning. My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here or directly from me.

1st August 2010, 12:26	#6
tilski Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 1,132	Hello We have 2 XHA1's. At first I thought it was the students using auto focus or not focusing properly. But guest what........I was wrong. I haven't got the bottom of this problem yet either but YES footage shot on the XHA1 can sometimes be soft on focus not to mention drained of colour. If i could I would Sony next time round. __________________ What's to become of us.... What is to become of us?

1st August 2010, 16:15	#7
Mick Mearman Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kingswinford, West Midlands Posts: 250	This is the first cam that I've had that you can't just shoot out of the box unless you are prepared to do it all in post, it gives a very flat output, you need to set a preset (and not the ones it comes with) if you want it to look good straight out of the cam, I use 'Panalook' which is designed to look like a DVX100, you'll find them here: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-xh...rary-copy.html and a video of some of them in use here: http://vimeo.com/1650059 Mick __________________ 3.00 gigahertz Intel Pentium III, 3.5GB RAM, ATI Radeon HD 4350, Avid Liquid, Edius, Sony DSR 300, Panasonic DVX 100, Canon XHA1, Panasonic SD700

1st August 2010, 09:22	#4
johnd Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: fife Posts: 297	we have a XHA1 in my film group but I've only personally used it a couple of times so my experience is negliable. In that I never offered any advice this may sound cheeky but can you tell us what the source of the problem was and how you resolved it?

1st August 2010, 11:44	#5
Gavin Gration Senior Member Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 4,226	Gain? ND left on?

1st August 2010, 16:39	#8
tilski Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: UK Posts: 1,132	Thanks, Mike. I'll give those a go soon. __________________ What's to become of us.... What is to become of us?

1st August 2010, 16:40	#9
caryjoy Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 1,750	The problem was that the AGC was switched on hence overloading the video input causing a fuzziness around the subjects being filmed. I've been discussing this with Robo & now setting up the cam with some settings he provided. Cheers __________________ Cary www.joybaileyvideo.com

2nd August 2010, 08:18	#10
Alan Roberts Moderate Moderator Join Date: May 1999 Location: Mugswell, Surrey, UK Posts: 11,986	That sounds like over-exposure rather than defocusing. __________________ Alan Roberts, happily retired from Auntie Beeb Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them. My BBC-owned camera settings documents are held at BBC R&D, also mirrored by BPR (under construction, click on NEWS) and Daniel browning. Documents for BBC-approved HD cameras are at BBC Commissioning. My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here or directly from me.

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