Tripods.

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Nintembo
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My first post on this board so I would firstly like to say hello to everybody!!!

I was just curios about what tripods would be suitable for a Mini DV camera? Do they come in different heights etc?

Thanks in advance, Tony.

JohnColby
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Hi and welcome to the forum.

A tripod gives a stable platform for the camera - that's all.

Apart from that - it depends. For both video and still (film or digital) photography I use a monopod, handheld, a Jessops tripod, a Manfrotto (at work) or a Benbo for hiking and uneven rough terrain. I also fly cameras from kites for aerial work.

Depends on what you want to use it for.

John

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Any tripod from the pro range from Manfrotto, Velbon etc should be suffice. There are 2 basic types fluid head or friction. Fluid head is the best but most expensive.

Mike

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You can get a decent tripod with fluid head from Manfrotto for about £200, and it will be fine for a camera up to about 4kg. If you can be certain that you never want to pan or tilit in shot, then you don't need the fluid head, and can save maybe £50. Don't go for a cheap, lightweight, flimsy tripod, you'll grow out of it very quickly.

A trpod transforms your footage from the obviously amateur into the would-be professional. Stable shots always look better than wobbly, unless you really want wobbly, in which case why would you want a tripod?

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Christian Lett
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Hi,

I recently purchased a Velbon D-600 for about £75 from Jessops.

Jessops don't seem to have it on their site but this one does:

http://www.swoptics.co.uk/view.asp?KEY=1251

It may be a discontinued model but but this one looks similar.

It's very sturdy with my TRV900 and has a good fluid head, which gives smooth and predictable pans & tilts.

It's no Manfrotto, but I couldn't afford that at the moment!

Christian.

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Nintembo
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Again please forgive my lack of knowlege but this is all pretty new to me.

It is my understanding that give or take, there are generally 2 sizof tripod. Tripods that are human height - for filming the face of people when hey are standing. And tripods that come down to the wasteline. Is this acurate?

Alan Roberts
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Not really. Tripods come in all heights. I've got a couple of table-top models that lift the camera only a few inches, handy for tight spots and very portable. The most common tripods raise the camera to just below eye height, when fully extended. The best of those do mit without raising the centre column, and are the most stable, the heaviest and the most expensive.

You can get pretty well anything you like, these days.

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Grazie
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Well the Velbon was my first NEW tripod. I've since got a Manfrotto .. 2nd hand! And this is my point. Try and see if you can get an old expensive tripod . . The Velbon is light and serviceable . .. Having now used the Frotty, I see and feel the difference. The built quality of the two are miles apart. I don't mean the Vellie will fall apart, but where there are "rivet" type hinges/connections on the Vellie the Frotty has proper and sturdy bolts . .. all the stuff on the Frotty is solid . .and that's what you want from a tripod. The Vellie relies heavily on the natural steadiness inherent in a Triangle. This all depends on each and ever "joint", where it is important for this triangularization to be effective, being solid .. This is where you "pay" the difference between the Frotty and the Velly. Will I still use my Velley? - you betcha! Apart from anything else it's a good few kilos lighter than the Frotty .. ahah!

Hope this hasn't confused you . .. try and see if you can pick up 2nd-hand kit .. I did, my Frotty cost £20 quid!

Grazie

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Nintembo, what camera are you using?

i've just invested in Libec TH650 (£175) and I LOVE IT! it's a little big for my sony trv20, on the occassions that i hire a PD150 its made for the job, they practically fuse together as one ;)

Nintembo
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Originally posted by cstv:
Nintembo, what camera are you using?

It is a Samsung VPD101 DV Camcorder.

Are all tripods suitable for DV cams? I ask because I am on a mega budget and I have seen one in Argos for £30.

And also could somebody explain with having a tripod with a 'pan head' is worth having - and what exactly does it do?

Cheers.

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A pan head is designed to allow you to traverse the video camera sideways WHILST SHOOTING, and still get smooth footage.

If you think about it, you would never need this facility with a still camera, and so a "pan head" is a feature only needed for video cameras. It requires a more elaborate (hence expensive) mechanism than, for example, a simple lockable ball-and-socket joint used for a still camera.

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Nintembo wrote:
My first post on this board so I would firstly like to say hello to everybody!!!

I was just curios about what tripods would be suitable for a Mini DV camera? [B]Do they come in different heights etc?[/B]

Thanks in advance, Tony.

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I think he's having a bit of fun with us. In 2007 he was shooting digibeta, later on he posted

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Also, in regards to a tripod, I have a heavy Manofrotto for my XL1 - will this be too small? (501 head)
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and in 2004 in a post he asked almost exactly the same question again

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Are all tripods suitable for DV cams? I ask because I am on a mega budget and I have seen one in Argos for £30.

And also could somebody explain with having a tripod with a 'pan head' is worth having - and what exactly does it do?

What's going on?

steve
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It gets worse if you try and help by PMs.

Steve

MAGLINK
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We no need those heavy tripod's these days when wobbly cam and find dat focus cam is the style for all self shooting PD edit bunnies!;)

Nintembo
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I've just seen this thread and I think its pretty disgusting what some of you people are doing, and I think you should be ashamed of yourselves. That is all.

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I've lost the plot here ........ disgusting? Oh you mean asking questions you already know the answers too? Sorry figured it was the christmas spirit. You did already ask these questions, and experience the joys of a heavy digibeta, so you must be living under a bridge waiting for people to cross? Or have I simply misunderstood what you've already posted and told us about yourself?
Happy New Year.
Paul

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We should all be BANNED!:rolleyes:

Nintembo
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No Gary, you should just show some professionalism and self respect.

MAGLINK
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Nintembo wrote:
No Gary, you should just show some professionalism and self respect.

I do with my work but as this is a forum it deserves a different manner and sense of humour! :D

Actually no I take that back I am what I am and if you don't like or respect my advice or sense of humour you can suit yourself, this is my 31st year in mainstream film and TV so I don't think I need to worry about waffle on forums!
I watched a 12 year old son die from cancer last year so I think i have more priorities in my life these days!

Nintembo
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Gary Nattrass wrote:
I do with my work but as this is a forum it deserves a different manner and sense of humour! :D

Actually no I take that back I am what I am and if you don't like or respect my advice or sense of humour you can suit yourself, this is my 31st year in mainstream film and TV so I don't think I need to worry about waffle on forums!
I watched a 12 year old son die from cancer last year so I think i have more priorities in my life these days!

Very sorry to hear about your son - my Mum died this year also - something many of the forum users know about.

Aren't you bothered however that people you work with away from this forum may Google your name to find your posts here harassing me, and bullying me for not knowing as much as you without any prompting whatsoever from myself? I'm polite to people in walks of life, be it online or on the streets, and I'd appreciate that same level of basic respect relayed to me.

EDIT: And I must say I'm genuinely baffled as to why you are acting like such a jerk? Considering I have privately thanked you in the past during PM's for the help you have given me. I suspect there have been some whispers behind closed doors lately as somebody else has implied to me, and if THAT person is reading this, he should be disgusted with himself.

Nintembo
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Paul, in case you missed it, this was posted in 2004... we are hours away from 2012.

That's egg on your face by the way, thanks for coming.

MAGLINK
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Doesn't bother me at all what people see on forums, my reputation in the TV and film industry is well established and people know that I am generous with my knowledge and time!

If you don't like what I say then that is up to you, I offer good advice but if asked a stupid question I tend to give a stupid answer in reply, it's called wit and sarcasm and it is always followed by a smiley to show the manner in which it is posted!

Besides regarding my last answer people who seem to know better tend not to use tripods these days and think that wobbly cam and search for focus cam is a desirable shooting style, I personally don't like it but if you do then that is up to you.

As for the best tripods for DV do some research yourself and there are lots of answers as to the best kit out there at all levels, if you don't agree with our opinions then you need to accept that you will never find the answers to your questions! :rolleyes:

As for any bereavement it is hard for us all to come to terms with the death of a loved one but in time it can make you a better person and give you more perspective about what is really important in life!

P.S if you feel I am harrasing or bullying you then can you please vent your specific complaints to the moderators of this forum!

Nintembo
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Moderators? I'll go to the teacher next shall I? Why don't you just be a man and stop acting like a child talking about a thread created 8 years ago...

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Nintembo wrote:
Moderators? I'll go to the teacher next shall I? Why don't you just be a man and stop acting like a child talking about a thread created 8 years ago...

You already did.

However , i fail to see you answering any of the questions asked here , or in other threads , where people try and help , but get no feedback to questions they ask you to help clarify things.

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MAGLINK
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Re: Tripods.
Hmmm lots of posts just disppeared and this gem went to the top of the list with no new reply, with threats of my own sites being attacked a few years ago do we have a hacker within our midst?
 
answers on a postcard! ;0)
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Re: Tripods.
I'm trying to make it possible to edit your own posts, this is quite involoved and will likely cause some (temporary) wierdness today!

You can contact me at http://tombassford.org
People interested in live production might like to check out http://atemuser.com 

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Re: Tripods.
sleepytom wrote:
I'm trying to make it possible to edit your own posts, this is quite involoved and will likely cause some (temporary) wierdness today!
 
Thank god for that I thought we were off to the twighlight zone again!