SCUBA Diving in YouTube HD

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spudgun
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQQQOJxPFTE

I actually prefer this quality to VIMEO. This is a promo I did for a Red Sea Diving company. I was fortunate in that I had some fair footage to work with, and wasn't actually commissioned to make the promo until after the holiday! Had I have known in advance, I would have obviously been better prepared.

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Hi Spudgun,
liked the video overall and there were some really good shots above the water; the star shots were those taken underwater which were consistently good. I went scuba diving a few years back whilst on a package holiday and of course bought the video of the trip, your footage was considerably better than the footage shot on my trip which I thought was ok at the time.
If I had to give a criticism it would be the use of maps - this is something that film makers have used since the dawn of time and most times look 'tacked on' - I'm afraid I think the only solution might be to create maps specific to the information you are trying to impart. I tend to avoid maps altogether.
John

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Hello

I've recently got back into scuba diving - you may have seen my post on this forum.

Just wanted to say hello really.

Hello!!!!

What's to become of us.... What is to become of us?

Dave R Smith
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Hi Spudgun,
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Excelent choice of music upbeat above water and calmer below, nicely mixed with camcorder sound of bubbles (or was that a 'cheat').
I like the lift of the music after the dive, but the second dive means the music slows a bit too sudden. Some light narration would be nice, though appreciate that this will likely be overlaid later by client.
Stills nicely mixed in.
I thought Johns reference to the map was a bit critical (I have a map of the middle east in my own latest production), until I saw it, too many names to read in the brief time - perhaps fewer place names and a burnt scrolls effect would be more in keeping.

spudgun
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Dave R Smith wrote:
Hi Spudgun,
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Excelent choice of music upbeat above water and calmer below, nicely mixed with camcorder sound of bubbles (or was that a 'cheat').
I like the lift of the music after the dive, but the second dive means the music slows a bit too sudden. Some light narration would be nice, though appreciate that this will likely be overlaid later by client.
Stills nicely mixed in.
I thought Johns reference to the map was a bit critical (I have a map of the middle east in my own latest production), until I saw it, too many names to read in the brief time - perhaps fewer place names and a burnt scrolls effect would be more in keeping.

Many thanks for the comments, Dave. To be honest, had I been specifically commissioned in ADVANCE of the holiday, then I could, and would have produced something far more superior. It was simply that I went on holiday with the little HV30, (I normally shoot with the XH-A1), in its housing, and towards the end of my holiday interest was expressed in a possible promotion. Consequently, I had to cobble something together with what I had already. You're right about the crappy map!! I should have got something better. With my new NLE editing software, I can actuall DRAW routes etc... And yes, I get the feeling also there should be something more on that second dive. Still, other than fishing out all my tapes and doing another entire cut, I can't really see that the gains would be that dramatic.
Best wishes Spud.

spudgun
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johnd wrote:
Hi Spudgun,
liked the video overall and there were some really good shots above the water; the star shots were those taken underwater which were consistently good. I went scuba diving a few years back whilst on a package holiday and of course bought the video of the trip, your footage was considerably better than the footage shot on my trip which I thought was ok at the time.
If I had to give a criticism it would be the use of maps - this is something that film makers have used since the dawn of time and most times look 'tacked on' - I'm afraid I think the only solution might be to create maps specific to the information you are trying to impart. I tend to avoid maps altogether.
John

Hi John, and thank you for your comments. You're quite right about the map. It does detract somewhat. I am actually a good Diver, (Dive Leader with BSAC), and not a bid Videographer. Problem is, I don't have all THAT much experience doing both at the same time!; and whilst I'm quite pleased with this short result, this has been edited down from around 14 hours of footage or so!! Lots of lost moments. I chased a white tip shark down to almost 40 Metres and got some great footage. Except where I though I had pressed Record, I had actually STOPPED recording, having failed to stop it on the previous shoot. (It can be tricky seeing the little red recording light through the eyepiece with a mask on!!)

fuddam
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greets Spud

IMHO, reduce it by half. Why? Well, people have short attention spans now, and while there are some good shots in your piece, there are some others that could be dropped. Tighten it. I appreciate culling from 14hrs is a lotta work, but would try a punchier, shorter piece, even if only as an exercise. Of course, it helps that you have unlimited time.

;)

re the map: for me, not sure an issue, though would like to have known where I was heading on that partic dive - eg zooming into specific locale.

re the shutter clicks: not sure. Would want to try alternatives.

anyway, just my 2c. Thanks for putting your work up. :)

johnd
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Hi Spud,
thanks for not being too put out by my comments. In truth if I had shot your video I would be highly delighted, it would have represented a major step up in my quality of filming.

I haven't got out of sync with the 'rec' and 'pause' button for a while now (so that means it will happen very soon). I actually copied someone's camcorder tape to DVD recently and the last sequence consisted of the camera being raised, picture composed - followed by the camera being raised and the picture being composed, as the cameraman filmed an entire musical review in two minutes (it's a lot quicker if you only film the bits between the songs).
One of the members at our local camcorder club apparently successfully filmed himself peeing this way though thankfully I only have his word for it. It was perhaps a bigger mystery as to why he would have gone into a public loo with the camcorder dangling from his neck in the first place. I always meant to find out the model of camcorder to make sure I never accidentally bought it on eBay,
John

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fuddam wrote:
greets Spud

IMHO, reduce it by half. Why? Well, people have short attention spans now, and while there are some good shots in your piece, there are some others that could be dropped. Tighten it. I appreciate culling from 14hrs is a lotta work, but would try a punchier, shorter piece, even if only as an exercise. Of course, it helps that you have unlimited time.

;)

re the map: for me, not sure an issue, though would like to have known where I was heading on that partic dive - eg zooming into specific locale.

re the shutter clicks: not sure. Would want to try alternatives.

anyway, just my 2c. Thanks for putting your work up. :)

Hi Fuddam, thank's for the valued comments. I couldn't agree more. In terms of a quick, attention keeping product it doesn't succeed on all levels; but this was the length I was asked to produce.(In fact, I was asked to produce 10 minutes originally). Add into that the equation the fact I wasn't really 'commissioned' until AFTER the event, meaning that I had no preparation, and without working from any kind of storyboard or plan of any kind, then it's not too bad. The camera clicks/transitions look ugly here because they took on a whole new appearance after been re-processed as MPEG-4's for some reason, but I like this 'snapshot' effect, I think it gives it a 'voyeuristic' bent and is something I include in most of my work. Your're not the first to query it though, and I may eventually have to re-evaluate its worth.

But don't get me wrong, as welcome as they are, I wasn't really seeking praise or appproval for its content, more its quality as it appears on Youtube, which I am very pleased with. I am now being commissioned to produce footage for a client who very much likes to utilise YouTube and other social networking sites to advertise, and the ability now to have a quality HD YouTube product with a small file size is a great bonus.
Best wishes,
Spud

fuddam
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onward!

:)