Come on then, own up which of you is it?

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GTFC Video
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branny
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Another operator with no obvious skills who just likes 'looking the part'. I have a great cam and headphones, so I must be good :D
£350 doesn't buy anyone a great wedding video, but even amateur newcomers should be able to provide something better than how this has been described.

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stuart621
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Surprised the Daily Mail doesn't know how to spell "disc"! :)

Arthur.S
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Here we go again I guess. At least some of the comments are positive re "you get what you pay for". A couple of the shots shown could be used as 2 sec establishing shots - grass/flowers up to the church door. Guests feet arriving. But the bored DJ is establishing.....that the evening was boring? :rolleyes: Why is he described as a 'photographer'? :confused:

branny
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MAGLINK
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Hmmm you go to his web site and it sends you to a sign up page for clik pic hosting, maybe another viral to advertise the clik pic site or have they closed him down.

This was also around three years ago: http://www.wedding-ideas-magazine.com/index.php?showtopic=220141

branny
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If only his work was as good as his marketing :)
http://claytonbennettphotography.bttradespace.com/about-us

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Derek Langford
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branny wrote:
If only his work was as good as his marketing :)
http://claytonbennettphotography.bttradespace.com/about-us

I am surprised that you feel that this guy has good marketing!! (Or were you being a little sarcastic??) The website appears to stutter into action there are no details worth talking about on what the packages are and when you are offering a photographic and video package starting at £650 for both. What can you expect!!
In his gallary there are only five photgraphs of five different females not all are nececarilly brides and to me the photo's look like they are totally random with different styles which are probably not his work in the first place!!

Maybe i am being a little harsh!! Or not!!

Derek Video Logic video-logic.org.uk

branny
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Derek Langford wrote:
I am surprised that you feel that this guy has good marketing!! (Or were you being a little sarcastic??)

Nothing gets past you Derek eh :)

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Arthur.S
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Love the testimonials. "We haven't posted any testimonials yet". :D

branny
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I really don't know what people think of before they book clowns like this. Surely anyone with an ounce of common sense asks to see a complete production to check what the day's coverage is gonna look like, especially at the price quoted?
Or is this 'recession' desperation and they need bragging rights on who got the cheapest deal?

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jgould
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Attended 2 wedding fayres this weekend and heard (from past brides mothers) of a fairly local, well established video company on one occasion going home after they sat down for the meal, when he was hired for the whole day and the other vanishing half way through the speeches. I assured them that the majority of us are professionals

tom hardwick
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branny wrote:
Surely anyone with an ounce of common sense...

That's the thing see. You don't have that ounce so you constantly make mistakes, like booking an all day videographer who charges £350. So what do you do? You whinge and whine and sue him, rather than going after that ounce. They probably spent all of fifty quid on flowers, and whinged and whined that they'd been half-inched from around that bent lamp post.

tom.

Peter Groom
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Ive watched the clips available and agree that it is pretty awful. He has no idea when the camera is level, no idea about framing, and clearly no idea about editing......but.

1) Surely the B&G must have known (just by looking around at other providers costs) that they were buying a bargain basement product at £350. Thats not an excuse in any way for the poor workmanship shown, but they should have known better too!

2) Id love to know how his demo reel / examples of his work looked when they auditioned it - or did they

3) Im sure everyone reading who has held a camera at a wedding will have had many people step in front of their shot, knock over their microphone, knock the camera etc etc. and just generally seem to set out to screw up the shot. Its how create shot options and how you then recover the situation in the edit that defines the film maker. He just didnt recover anything that I can see.

Truly awful tho. i hope he disappears for good as characters like this do the industry no favours.
I feel like mailing him and asking how much after effects is included for the 350!
Peter

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This joker was certainly asking for trouble by turning in a product like that. But for the price he was charging- I don't know if the punishment fits the crime, considering how much mileage this story got. Poor b#stard is an international sensation. LINK

branny
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Gonna cancel the marketing for this year. This guy's done such a good job of illustrating why cheap n good don't always go together.
The best marketing about losing those wedding day memories have had in years. :D

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geoveo
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If you read some of the comments going on around these articles from people not connected with the video business you'll see that many think that £350 is not cheap. I think that this will only go to reinforce in many peoples minds that the wedding video business is populated by inept amateurs or greedy chancers.

Those of us who have a track record and get our work from referrals are probably not going to be effected too much by such stories but those relying on sourcing work from the web might find a more sceptical public out there as it seems that his website gave the impression that his business was professional and he was competent.

Incidentally this has not deterred everyone from looking for reduced prices. I had two enquires yesterday and both asked for discounts, and that was before even asking to see any of my work. I had another enquirer a few days ago say they had been offered a price of £335 and would I better that!!!
I think we have become a nation of bottom price buyers.

branny
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geoveo wrote:
If you read some of the comments going on around these articles from people not connected with the video business you'll see that many think that £350 is not cheap.
From all the comments I've read the complete opposite is true - these are from the
cheap n cheerful Sun too
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3479870/Duff-wedding-video-shows-legs-backs-and-grass.html?allComments=true

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geoveo
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Branny note that I said comments from people not connected with the business, it is self fulfilling that anyone who is involved will have a different perspective.
I've read the Sun ones and they are a mixed bunch, read around the other ones and some of the overseas reports. We delude ourselves if we turn a blind eye to these comments, depressing as they may be.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not endorsing the comments after all I'm making my living from such work - this has been my full time occupation for over twenty years - I have no interest in lowering peoples expectations, but my experience - and it may well be completely different to yours - is that up until a few years ago I'd regularly turn 90% of enquiries into bookings, now my number of enquiries are way up but I am lucky to turn 40-50% of those to get roughly the same amount of bookings; more and more people are buying on price and many think that a wedding DVD is expensive.

steve
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Surely all this obsession by the public over how much they pay is all part of the 'rip-off-Britain' myth that the media keep ramming down their throats. If you ask the punters how much they think their day's work is worth, you would get a different answer.

Steve

branny
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geoveo wrote:
Branny note that I said comments from people not connected with the business,.

Don't know if you've read all the comments but I only see 2 out of 30 who are connected to the business. The majority seem to think it's too cheap.
Tbh In the last 12 years I haven't had anyone try to price match us to the cheapest.

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