Chrome Radio

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Chrome
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I wonder if I could request some feedback on the following if you have time...

I'm looking to set up a little independent internet based radio station, not too sure what kbps we will be broadcasting yet, but we want it to be as good quality as we can afford to do. It's intended to be a serious, but I'm hoping with the plans that we have it could be just a little different from the norm.

Here are a few of the ideas I have...

It will be a mix of live talk-show programming (mostly in the evenings) and scheduled playlists or recordings of previous 'live' shows which will run during the day. If it proves popular there may also be live shows during the day.

We will have regular weekly shows on technology (especially on, you guessed it... video), as well as slots dedicated to gaming, gadgets, computing and the internet. Sometimes we will feature guests and experts (via the telephone at first). Depending on the popularity... we try to be listener driven with a presence and website dedicated to getting feedback from the listeners.

But it will be primarily a talk-radio station where anyone can call via skype (or regular telephone) and ask questions or provide answers during the shows, give an opinion or have a frank discussion with the host of each show. During some of the 'open debate' live programming there will be a number of topics discussed during the evening and no topic will be off-limits, however we will be the judge of what we can discuss.

All the music we play (yes there will be music), will be from unsigned bands and artistes who have supplied their tracks to us. No royalties will be paid though - the opportunity to get exposure will be the payment (did I mention we will be available through iTunes and the 'Live' recorded shows via podcast?). It will be at our discretion how often a track gets played, we make a pledge to the band that every track will be played at least once and at first ALL tracks will appear at least once in the daily schedule as long as they meet certain quality criteria.

We will be holding a 'grand jingle competition' at our launch and the winner will get a (yet-to-be-specified) prize. All the entries will get an airing and the best ones will be used regularly. We will be offering a free regular mention to anyone providing the jingles we select to use.

So the question is...

What do you think?
Would you listen occasionally?
Would you take part and call in?
What programming would you like?
If so would it be live via iTunes, from a dedicated URL or perhaps you would download the Podcast?
Do you know anyone in a band that would be wanting to send in their music?

Any other comments...

All replies are appreciated. I've posted here first as there are a great bunch of members here, some who I have now known for well over a decade and I appreciate your opinions... :)

Alan Roberts
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I probably wouldn't listen or call in, I don't listen to any net radio, so you'd not be an exception. But, I'd be happy to take part (by phone or email) if you get problems you need sorting out.

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Dave R Smith
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Hi Chrome,

I like the concept - out the blue as well. Yesterday it was 3D, what's tomorrow? ;)

Feedback:
> no topic will be off-limits,
This can quickly become boring for the listener - have you seen Loose women.:eek:
Focus is needed.

>We will be holding a 'grand jingle competition' at our launch and the winner will get a (yet-to-be-specified) prize.
I'm not keen on working with contingent return.

>Would you listen occasionally?
Yes - if good/flowing judder free connection.

>Would you take part and call in?
Probably too shy.

What programming would you like?
Music from 70's 80's
Fun aspects of photgraphy.
Passion and creativity with technology - including motoring/cars.

>If so would it be live via iTunes, from a dedicated URL or perhaps you would download the Podcast?
Live from URL if topic was of interest, otherwise look for interesting items in back catalogue.

>Do you know anyone in a band that would be wanting to send in their music?
I frequently receive requests from musicians/composers to use their music.
I would be happy to put them your way.

>Any other comments...
Not sure 'The gadget show' would work on radio without visual appeal.
That goes for the products as well as Suzi Perry.

Could have topical feedback and thoughts on like of BBC news for Technology/Science/Environment, new discoveries animals - planetary.

I tend to use TV for background, rarely listen to radio, apart from in car.
No doubt you have a business plan / goal and have done research on number of radio listeners, age profile and how many via IP etc.

HTH

P.S. 'Chrome' Radio? With google use of Chrome and recent threads on conflicting business use of names etc it may be asking for flack..or $$$from your wallet - even if you used your own nick-name probably before Google was heard of!

Chrome
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Cheers for the feedback Dave...

Dave R Smith wrote:
No doubt you have a business plan / goal and have done research on number of radio listeners, age profile and how many via IP etc.

No business plan, as this is not intended to be a main commercial venture, but more of a smaller hobby business (something I personally call any business with a sub £30k turnover) - I'm hoping it may ultimately pay for itself, but that's not the real goal; it's just something I have always wanted to try. I have 95% of the required equipment already, mostly sitting around doing very little... computers, mixers, microphones, effects racks (compressors, exciters, effects etc.), synthesizers, samplers, nearfield and other monitors, headphones, DAT, mini disk, CD recorder/players, midi control panels, relevant software, etc. mostly top-of-the-range professional kit.

However the above said, I AM still researching carefully as I try never to do anything 'half-cocked' and this thread is one part of that research. It's still early days yet, I'm assuming it will be for adults only at this stage (due to the potential nature of some of the discussions) and expect only a small number of listeners at first which will hopefully grow if we 'get it right' :D We will then scale-up with demand.

Dave R Smith wrote:
P.S. 'Chrome' Radio? With google use of Chrome and recent threads on conflicting business use of names etc it may be asking for flack..or $$$from your wallet - even if you used your own nick-name probably before Google was heard of!

Lol - No it won't be Chrome Radio, though I do have a trademark for something very similar granted a long time before Google Chrome came about. If you have a registered trademark then you can have full rights to use it, however the TM people are quite thorough before they grant you a TM. I've been in business far too long to make any mistakes in that direction ;)

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Chrome wrote:
Lol - No it won't be Chrome Radio, though I do have a trademark for something very similar ...

Radio Ga Ga ;)
or 'Buggles Radio' - tad cryptic and given your above thoughts, also ironic - you're the right age and occupation to click. :)

Do you not also require a ship in the North Sea? :D

Personally I find business plans work well - even for side projects and where not even presenting thoughts to third party. For me it helps pose questions to yourself and structure thoughts.

Idle thought for getting most from radio via new media:
Have pre-recorded content in small nuggets with short description.
Have facility for listener to compile their own list of nuggets, then for their 'custom radio show' to be played and paused at will, continuously without having to keep visiting and re-selecting content.
Content can be divided into themes, same as 'youtube', or sub-forums here and use relational database to access, as each nugget may have relevance to more than one theme .
Would be plus point if cookie etc maintained list of those nuggets already played - for non-music content atleast.

This thought falls down though for live calls/debate.:rolleyes:

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Interesting thoughts Dave - certainly worthy of consideration... I like the 'nuggets' but must remind you that we're not KFC - :D

Funny you should mention Buggles actually... I few years ago I was DoP and co-producer for a DVD for 'ICON' a band featuring Geoff Downes, who was (apart from being in ASIA, YES and other supergroups), was also the keyboard player in Buggles. He was the first person to ever be shown on MTV when it launched (actually it was his hands) at the start of Video Killed the Radio Star.

Back to Radio Ga Ga... (lol) I intend their (eventually) to be a website and will probably post a small bio of each band if they supply their tracks. I will also have a webcam in the 'studio' and things like that.

You are close enough to me to be a 'live' guest when we're up and running :)

I suppose I should really put a cursory business plan together as you say... I'm used to doing them, but I'ts all quite clear in my head anyway. :D

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Chrome, I'm like Alan and would not listen, but don't be offended. Radio 4 is about the extent of my Radio listening.

Best of luck with the venture!

Rob The picture is only there to keep the sound in sync

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Chrome, i think with any new venture in that field is very hard to break into regards people listening and what group of people are you planning of targeting?.
I think it is a wonderful idea as i was involved with a local Radio Station in Wiltshire, but they only had a licence for a period of time. Too have a Radio-Video-Forum is a good idea, but with all new ventures it needs to be advertised.
I will watch this space and see what feedbacks you get. One idea i would have Movie errors past and present. People watch DVDs, but do they see the continuity errors in these big production.
Classic one. The latest release under the "Stevan Segal" DVD, THE KEEPER. He gives her a necklace to wear. How many know the error.
Anyway, that is one idea regards film idea.

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Chrome wrote:
What do you think?

Good idea.

  • Would you listen occasionally? - yes
  • Would you take part and call in? - maybe
  • What programming would you like? - varied and speech as well as music
  • If so would it be live via iTunes, from a dedicated URL or perhaps you would download the Podcast? - URL or Podcast - *not* iTunes
  • Do you know anyone in a band that would be wanting to send in their music? - no, but Mike Skeet is in Milton Keynes with loads of classical stuff he has recorded as well as loads of unusual stuff, so he may be worth contacting (and you *must* listen to his 9.1 system (5.1 surround with an extra 4 loudspeakers for height information)
  • Any other comments... - have a talk with MCL in Milton Keynes, he is well versed in these things. Send me a PM and I'll let you have contact details (that goes for both MCL and Mike Skeet - and I am only 30 minutes away as well).

John
 
A picture tells a thousand words, but sound tells a thousand pictures.

Chrome
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Thanks John, PM sent. Incidentally I remember reading Mike's tests with a Zoom recorder which were excellent and helped me to decide to buy one.

John Willett
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Chrome wrote:
Thanks John, PM sent. Incidentally I remember reading Mike's tests with a Zoom recorder which were excellent and helped me to decide to buy one.

PM received and reply sent.

Mike Skeet actually writes regularly for Audio Media magazine.

John
 
A picture tells a thousand words, but sound tells a thousand pictures.

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John, I will get in touch with those contacts (and yourself) soon.

'We Talk Freely' (the name of the station, which essentially describes our proposition) now has a facebook page up and running... If any of you are on facebook, please take time to join as fans, I need the support :) If you have any requests for topics etc. they could be posted on our discussion on the facebook page.

Hoping to 'launch' next week broadcasting across the net and accessible from our (TBA) URL as well as iTunes and other methods of connection. You will be able to call in using Skype from your computer or Skype enabled equipment in order to make it free or as cheap as possible to take part in discussions. Hope to talk on WTF to some of you very soon. :D

Dave R Smith
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When I saw WTF my first thought was WTF.:eek:
Not sure if that's deliberate.

Chrome
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Oh my gosh Dave... you're quite right... what an amazing coincidence!!

Lol - I'm kidding... of course it's deliberate and intentional.

When folks are scanning down those listings of stations I wanted something that would make us stand out... 'WTF Talk Radio' might raise a chuckle and tempt someone to tune in to find out what it is we're doing.

In our case the acronym 'WTF' actually means 'We Talk Freely', which in effect is describing our proposition, but as you correctly spotted it also means something else to many people.

Like some good acronyms such as SNAFU or BOGOF it has an alternative meaning that in some cases contradicts the longer 'full' version of what the acronym actually stands for. :)

Dave R Smith
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So WYSIWYG :D

Chrome
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Exactly :D

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Maxwell wrote:
One idea i would have Movie errors past and present. People watch DVDs, but do they see the continuity errors in these big production...

...Anyway, that is one idea regards film idea.

Forgot to thank you for the idea Maxwell - We will be having a film reviewer and we may roll this idea into that. :)

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Just want to say a big thanks to Dave at Fox Video for listening in to our test broadcasts and giving me some much needed feedback via Skype.
This is a pretty complex technical setup which I still haven't got right. I will post a blog document when I have detailing the technical aspects. Any other feedback or suggestions gratefully accepted.

Our Skype connection used is currently 'WTF Talk Radio 1' if it is showing available you can call I will be around off and on... :)

To tune in to temporary connections whilst testing for various players:
Winamp:
Windows Media Player:
Real Player:
QuickTime:

Please bear in mind if you do connect - The test broadcast IS NOT indicative of the music or content we will be broadcasting. It's simply free stuff I have or have produced that will allow me to broadcast testing 24/7, so don't take it as gospel this is what we will be broadcasting from the evening of March 5th.

TIA :D

Chrome
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If you do tune in, please be aware that normally we are broadcasting on 96kbps at 44.1 kHz, but for the next 24-48 hours we will be testing different levels of quality, so there may be a reduced service and occasional drop-outs. Apologies for that. :)

We are launching on 5th March at 20:00 hours (until midnight) and the first discussion will be on Conspiracies. On wednesday 10th March we will be having a 'skype-in' on 'Video, the technology and the art of video making', this will be the first in our series of techn ical subjects.

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Just an update...

I launched 'WTF Talk Radio' and broadcast the first 4-hour show on the subject of 'Conspiracy Theories' on Friday last at 8pm. It all went really well and the show was a big success with quite a few listeners (even had some in the US, Egypt, Switzerland and Australia) and one caller who kept us all entertained for quite some time with her 'off the wall' views.

We've now got a handful of unsigned international artistes signed up both Local and from France, New York, and good old blighty (details and pictures on the WTF Talk Radio Facebook site). They range from Pure Folk through Experimental Hardcore to Mersey Beat and Singer Songwriters, so a really good mix. We broadcast their music 24/7 once we've featured them on the show giving them lots of exposure.

Next show Monday 8pm on 'The Music Business'... (the links in the message above will still work - use the winamp one for iTunes as well) our Skype if you want to call the show is... 'wtftalk1'.

We still need lots of support to help make this a big success so if you're on twitter please follow us on @wtftalkradio, if you are on Facebook please 'fan' us (link above).

Not too shabby for an idea that came to me only about a couple of weeks ago... :D

Thanks for your earlier input guys... was a good help. :rolleyes: