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Gavin Gration
8th April 2005, 11:33
Apologies if this has already been posted.

http://www.jvcpro.de/jvcpro/

Looks good - the HDV deck takes full sized tapes.

Here the text for the deck in English (give or take a few words).

VC Professional Europes presents with the BR-HD50, the first Rekorder/Players in the ProHD product line newly introduced by JVC. ProHD was developed for professional users, openly hold would want itself, who want to generate further productions in the standard-format, however nevertheless the option to be able to change always problem-free on High definition video. The BR-HD50E proves to be an ideal Zuspieler for cut systems and as optimal Rekorder/Players for editierte programs. And it is the perfect supplement for the new JVC ProHD video camcorder GY-HD100, a superkompakten video camcorder with change lens. Both products, that BR-HD50E and the video camcorder are introduced on the NAB 2005 for the first time the public.

With the BR-HD50E, the user both High definition video as well as video material in standard solution to that or of the NLE-system can transfer. Moreover economical volume copies in both standard z can with it. B. for archiving purposes produced become. Through the simple switch between HDV- and DDP-reception, plus the possibility to be able to represent DVCAM (TM) -material, presents itself the Rekorder/Players as one especially simply and flexible to be handled and in addition extremely low-priced supplement for each professional NLE-system. The BR-HD50E is with digital entrances and exits (Standard-6-pin. IEEE 1394-Anschlüsse) equipped, which guarantee the Free of losses reproduction and reception of High definition and standard-definition-material. Let yourself over ProHD on the running hold - for registering here click will expand „we also in the future our product range for the professional users of Europe with developments, meet can, who orient himself to the current requests, and also the growing demand after High definition productions“, declares Miguel Marino, European marketing director of JVC Professional Europes to be products out of the Creation area. „Our goal is fit go around can it to develop products, that likewise well to our current DDP-products like also with High definition
formats. A new Rekorder/Payer must be especially multilateral accordingly with regard to signal processing and -generation. And exactly that performs the BR-HD50. it enables professional cutter the transfer and the reproduction both of DDP-material and of HDV-material. Thereto comes, offers that it an economical volume archiving in both standard.“

The volume mechanism is both displayed for DDP-cassettes in normal size and for miniDV-cassettes and permits therefore the record of up to 276 minutes video selectively in standard or High definition solution. The Rekorder/Players can process signals, that are recorded in 720p/24/25/30 and 576p/50 in HDV as well as 576i/50 & 25 B/s in DDP. A 8-place LED at the Fronseite represents Time code, user bit it and the VTR-status. With the integrated HDV-decoder, 720p MPEG2-Aufnahmen can be transformed for Kontrollzwecke in 1080i/50 or 576i/50. JVC proved moreover the expanse visibility to equip the Rekorder/Players with a HDMI-exit by what means großformatige TFT-Panels can be actuated and practically each video display or PC-monitor which are „HD Ready“**, directly over the High definition Multimedia-interface of the BR-HD50E.

In the HDV-mode, the BR-HD50E supports two MPEG Audiokanäle. In DDP-receptions, the user between two and four PCM Audiokanälen can select. In addition controls the Rekorder/Players manifold connections for analogous signals, namely components (via 3 xs BNC), Y/C and FBAS as well as a RS-422 interfaces.

The Rekorder/Players BR-HD50E will be as of early summer 2005 available. The planned list price should lie under 4.000,-- EURO.

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And the camera:-

The change lens with standard-Bayonet-connection is only one of the many equipment features that makes the new JVC video camcorder GY-HD100 to the really professional reception tool. Therewith it fits very well into the request profile of the PAL-Produktionslandschaft prevailing in Europe where predominantly in the SD-format (standard definition) worked becomes. In addition it can come later however also the increasing wishing after the production of High definition material.

In Europe, JVC possesses already the predominant market share for shoulder video camcorder*, and the model introduced recently GY-DV5100 will worry that JVC remains the no. 1 in this market. To take in now, with the launch of this Innovative and professional compact video camcorder – for the first time introduced on the NAB (from the 18 April in read Vegas) – intentionally JVC also in the professional video sector for lightweight-handheld-video camcorder a just as dominant position.

In the professional market, it concerned in the past in easy and compact video camcorders mostly modified Consumer-models. JVC on the other hand selected GY-HD100 in the design of its professional ProHD 3-CCD-Camcorder 3-CCD-Camcorder 3-CCD-Camcorder 3-CCD-Camcorder VIDEO CAMCORDER one extension new totally. ProHD itself been based on spread the advantages the worldwide, of JVC, Sharp, Sony and Canon of received high resolution HDV-standard. Through adding of different professional equipment features in the areas Time code and Audio, was expanded this standard for the GY-HD100 in order to make this video camcorder in above all for professional video makers interestingly. Let yourself over ProHD on the running hold - for registering here click so constructed JVC in the remaining the video camcorder, that all video makers, that must come later increasingly inquiries after High-definition video as well as standard-video, with which GY-HD100 can serve both target groups likewise well. Moreover the GY-HD100 in the standard-DDP-mode can selectively natives 16:9- or 4:3-Video
deliver. The high quality level becomes and determined a. through the three neuentwickelten CCDs and the real native 16:9-Auflösung of 1280 xs 720 like also through the extraordinary speed and efficiency of the progressive videos signal processing.

The 16-fach-objektiv 16-fach-objektiv specialty 16-fach-objektiv objectively with that of the GY-HD100 standard moderate equipped is, was developed specially by Fujinon for this new 16:9-1/3“-CCD-Camcorder. The lens enable the manual operation of all lens functions and offers mechanical Endanschläge. For the 16-fach-objektiv 16-fach-objektiv specialty 16-fach-objektiv a Weitwinkeladapter objectively stands to the decree. Alternatively also a classic 3,5-mm-Weitwinkelobjektiv with 13-fach-zoom 13-fach-zoom can zoom mounted become specialty 13-fach-zoom. With an Adapter offered by JVC as accessories, it is to be used possible, even available ½“-Optiken.

In addition JVC presents makes a new patented Feature by the name of „HD focus Assist“, that the Fokussierung not only more precise, but rather also yet shortens. This function reinforces the edges of the focused picture cut so that in the view through the searcher on the first view is recognizable, which object became just sharp place. Above all in an extremely useful function include in the HD mode.

A further equipment feature time-saving for the camera man is the interchangeable SD-card, on the camera attitudes different individual itself for different reception styles and -resemble abspeichern let. So the camera man can be use personal attitude profile with each other camera in that he exchanges very simply the SD storage card.

The possibility likewise demanded multiply by camera people and cutter to be able to receive next to the classic volume record also on hard disk, comes JVC through a HDD-module removable (optional accessories) toward. The hard disk so can be adjusted that the record sequentiell takes place or parallel by means of the volume record. From that different advantages arise. So the record times let both in standard-reception therefore also in HD-reception over the 60 minutes capacity of DDP-Cassetten out extend themselves.

Also the parallel record offers a higher security on volume and hard disk for critical situations. Moreover the hard disk the automatic Pufferung permits of seconds or quite minutes of video signals so that the start also always dependably is recorded by actions. Another advantage the removable hard disk is above all, that from that resulting time saving: of the video camcorder separated becomes it within seconds an independent NLE-source. No other system, equal in which HD-video-price segment, offers this lightning Editing-Feature.

The GY-HD100 video camcorder is be predestined thanks to its magnesium-syringe shower-Chassis and ergonomic design especially stable and very comfortable also as a shoulder video camcorder usable, during it slight weight above all however for that „direct“ operation.

The GY-HD100 offers the choice between 720p/25, 720p/24 and 720p/30 and as PAL-Aufnahmeformate 576i/50 and 576p/25 in 4:3 or 16:9 as HDTVS-formats. coming from the nativen progressive 720p-Aufnahme, delivers the integrated converter of signal form further a row in real time. These signals stand not only in real time to the decree, but rather also no Artefakte show up. In High-definition, these are 1080i/50, 1080i/60, 720p/60 and 720p/50 as well as in 625/PAL standard-definition 576i/50 in 4:3 or 16:9.

Material is supposed to be turned for the distribution medium film, the GY-HD100 can be shifted on native 720p/24-Aufzeichnung. These receptions can be processed then problem-free together with original 16 mm or 35 mm film materials.

To the further professional equipment features of the GY-HD100 belong both XLR-Audioeingänge for Audioaufnahmen in high quality and with independent Pegeleinstellern for each canal.

„JVC has so conceives the GY-HD100, delivers that it absolutely professional video reception quality in spite of its superkompakten design“, explains Semir Nouri, product manager JVC Professional Europes. „To the first time it is arrive to implement really professional equipment features zoom attitude and focus attitude manual how with mechanical Endanschlägen. This is to be owed v. a. through the initial use of a change lens at a compact video camcorder, that is little enough in order to be able to become out of the hand served. Therewith professional users of no more compromises must go in. With the presentation of the GY-HD100 ProHD video camcorder, JVC underlines is will lie its position as a leading manufacturer and developer of professional video-equipment, who also for most budget erschwinglich.“ the planned list price, Fujinon Zoomobjektiv inclusive 16-fold presumable under 6.000,- EURO. As an optional accessories for the GY-HD100, a professional Richtmikrofon, a wide-angle-Zoomobjektiv, a Schnellspann-Stativplatte as well as a hard disks reception unit is offered.

The GY-HD100 becomes read shown for the first time on this year's NAB in Vegas.

Alan Roberts
8th April 2005, 13:29
Yes, this is the camera and vtr that JVC were showing us details of at the Video Forum. Sadly, though, it works only up to 30 frames/second, whereas the broadcast standard for 720p is 60Hz in the US, 50Hz in Europe. So, it's only really any good for shooting film-style, with the usual jerky motion that you get when frames are repeated.

For me, this system is of far less interest than the 1080i HDV stuff from Sony (FX1/Z1), and the not-yet announced Panasonic switchable P2 HD camera (does 1080i and 720p, all recorded on P2 cards in a "new compression format" with about 3.5:1 compression (i.e. same as a D5)).

Gavin Gration
8th April 2005, 15:15
Thanks Alan,

I'm now slightly less ignorant but feel even less inclined jump aboard HDV.

Kind of makes me wonder why they (JVC) are bothering.

Gavin

Alan Roberts
8th April 2005, 15:57
Indeed.

JVC's first offering was the HD1, running 720p/30. That's one of the HDV standards, but I still wonder who buys it and why. This one's better, but still only delivering half the frame rate that makes sense. If you want to shoot film-motion, it's fine, but there's more to life than film-motion.

cj
8th April 2005, 17:25
Are you sure about the GY-HD100 recording in HD 720/30 only. All the early info I have read states that it is selectable from 720p/25, 720p/24 and 720p/30. I think there is a JY-HD10 which is 720/30 for hd recording.

Alan Roberts
8th April 2005, 19:50
Yes, that's right, but none of those rates is 50Hz or 60-Hz, the rates for proper broadasting. 30Hz is the maximum rates these cameras run at.

PaulD
10th April 2005, 13:41
Hi
Here's some more in-depth info about JVC ProHD/HDV:
www.filmimaging.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=31724&afterinter=true (http://www.filmimaging.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=31724&afterinter=true)

Alan Roberts
11th April 2005, 09:56
Precious little detail about it though, an awful lot of puff. I'd have liked to see a short specification. But is confirms that they're not doing full rate HD in the 100. They're "responding to demands" for 24p, and that means people wahting to print to film or to make truly horrid 2:3 OR 2:3:3:2 pull-down to 60 for those in the 60Hz camp. It's a largely irrelevant camera for the 50Hz countries.

SimonMW
13th April 2005, 12:45
Roll on the Panasonic which apparently does 1080p! :))

PaulD
13th April 2005, 13:22
Hi
Here's two 'official' Panasonic info pages which confirm that - although only a '24/30/60' version has been announced:
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/... (http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelDetail?displayTab=O&storeId=11201&catalogId=13051&itemId=93120&catGroupId=14569&modelNo=AG-HVX200&surfModel=AG-HVX200)
http://ag-hvx200.com/

Alan Roberts
13th April 2005, 14:38
You can be absolutely certain that there'll be a 25/50Hz version for sale in Europe, Australia, Chine and so on. I'd guess about 6-12 months behind the NAB launch, i.e. at IBC or next NAB.

SimonMW
13th April 2005, 21:11
Only thing is, when is a nice 'affordable', and great HD equivilent of the DSR570 etc coming out? Alan, I know you aren't as enamoured with Sony cameras as with the Panny's, but I've got to say that I'm pining for a HD version of the PDW510 etc. But only if it does 1080p! I can dream.

infocus
14th April 2005, 16:37
I agree with all Alan says about the camera, and can't help thinking that their "responding to demands" for 24p is another way of saying that they don't have the technology yet to make a 50p camera yet in this marketplace! But, from what's so far been seen, whilst they seem to be behind such as Sony in the "innards", the first photographs show a camera that does look to have been designed to USE, as opposed to produce test images. Hopefully, even if not a camera to recommend, it may shake Sony into doing something about the styling of it's prosumer range.

A colleague is convinced that the poor ergonomics/great performance of the Z1 is no accident - the picture quality etc ensures it rave reviews, the ergonomics ensure that pro cameramen are little tempted to see it as a conceivable replacement for their big cameras, and such as Sony can keep their sales there.

May be worth mentioning that when 1080p is talked about nowadays, it's likely to be 25p, with 50p a goal for the future. That said, 25i may be better overall for some subjects than 25p.

Alan Roberts
14th April 2005, 17:12
All correct.

1080p, at present means p/24, p/25, p/30. 24 is for doing 2:3 (normal) or 2:3:3:2 (now called "PA" and used when it's important to be able to extract original frames easily) pulldown to get to i/60 (NTSC film-style, 59.94Hz in the Americas), 25 gets you to i/50 by 2:2 pulldown (625 film-style), 30 is an oddity.

BTW, there is a camera that will do 1080 p/60, but it's only a prototype and there's no affordable recorder (i.e. the HDCAM-SR will do it with the stereo plug-in, but it's hugely expensive).

PaulD
14th April 2005, 17:13
Hi
Reputedly the JVC camera (in ProHD mode) can do 60p - but not to tape, only directly out by cable.

Alan Roberts
14th April 2005, 17:16
We'll see, and I'd be happy to place a small bet that that's only at 720 :D

SimonMW
15th April 2005, 08:44
Yep, the 1080p would only be at 25fps. However while 1080p at 50fps would be preferable in terms of overall picture, for now I don't have a problem with 25fps. More care just needs to be taken when shooting things.

Certainly I would prefer 1080p at 25fps to 1080i for the following reason, other than I prefer the look.

Progressive images compress much more efficiently for whatever compression codec we will be using for HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. MPEG and WMV compression schemes hate nothing more than interlaced images.

Of course I realise that everyone here prefers progressive in theory as long as the framerate is high enough, such as 50fps.

But regarding current framerates, as it was pointed out to me once, as things stand now, progressive may judder motion, but interacing smears it. Horses for courses.

Alan Roberts
15th April 2005, 10:05
Indeed. 25p's fine for anything that's appropriate for film-motion.

Indicentally, Sky's subjective tests have virtually ruled out 720 p/50 for acquisition and broadcast, because their panel of observers all preferred 1080 i. Faced with the choice of more resolution over proscan in a given bandwidth, I'm with Sky, interlace is still a sensible way to proceed. Proscan is good only if the frame-rate's high enough, and 25's simply not fast enough for a huge range of programming, unless you actively want the jerky motion of film.